so big bush said -- h.w. said when his son came back, it was like having a reunion. >> guest: yes. >> host: little bush must have felt at some level, there was familiar territory. >> guest: that's interesting. sometimes people don't realize that they say. when president clinton came into office, he was not accustom to having servants or people on the household staff. he never had that -- some of that in arkansas as a governor, but nothing like a wealthy american would have. which president bush were. they didn't know how to deal with the household staff. hillary and bill clinton. they were wondering why are they here at night? are they spying on it? what's it all about? then they realized they had duties. >> host: they thought they were spying, things might have turned out differently; right? >> guest: yeah, looking back on it, you can see people not accustom to having staff at their elbow, do i have any time to myself? >> host: right. >> guest: as time went on, the staff game to like and respect. initially,